Dangerous people food.....
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Mon 09 Jul 2007 08:58AM PDT
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Here's a link to a great article about certain foods that are toxic to our guys....
Of course we should never be giving our dogs people food.......
http://www.treshanley.com/cic/dangerousfoods.html
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Sat 14 Jul 2007 03:40PM PDT
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GigisStaff posted on her blog about the dangers of feeding people food. Her dog almost died. I know, I was there. See No More Doggy Bags, please!
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 08:31AM PDT
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20 Foods NOT to ever serve your pet (from Parade this wknd)> Alcohol, Apple cores, Avocado, Bones, Caffeine, Cheese, Chocolate, Dough, Fat, Garlic, Grapes, Ham, Liver, Milk, Moldy foods, Mushrooms, Onions, Potato peels, Raisins, Tuna.
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 10:47AM PDT
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Love her explanations for why/what can happen.Wonder what kibble company is backing her? Everything in moderation, if I eat too many grapes my tummy pays for it, same if I drink too much alcohol, my head pays for it, and some people can die from alcohol poisioning, I never plan to drink that much. How can "LIVER" be bad? If you/your pet eats 10# of it a day for 5 months straight? Just like fast food? I really can't belive that parade printed that "story" with out any explanations
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 11:05AM PDT
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Kay ~ I knew you would be right on top of that ;-) I guess they should have said avoid cooked bones?! Online in the recipes, calls for Parmesan cheese (the list says avoid cheese). Remember back when we were told to give our dogs garlic (for parasite prevention)? On an old Leave it to Beaver, they served a cat a bowl of milk. Our silky growing up ate apple cores all the time. Numerous members here list grapes as their dog's favorite treats. So many times I hear, "But they llllooovvvveeeee it". And to that I say, if your dog liked crack, would you give him that, too?
Bottom line: live, learn & research what is the best nutritional program for your dog and you, without ever risking their health or well-being!
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 01:54PM PDT
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I have researched foods that are dangerous for your dog, and grapes are right up there. Some dogs can tolerate a lot, some it only takes a few. The result if you cross that unknown line, though, is kidney damage. Personally I would never risk that.
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 01:59PM PDT
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Me neither (risking) ~ I used to make these fab chicken liver brownies for my guys, with corn meal and whole wheat flour. THEN I learned.........
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 02:14PM PDT
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From the ASPCA Poison Control site:
"Why are grapes harmful?
As far as grapes and raisins go, no one is sure why they're harmful. It's been confirmed that even grapes grown without fertilizers or pesticides can be toxic to dogs. But not to every dog, and not every time. It's also not known whether small amounts eaten over a long time period could have a cumulative effect.
What we do know is that the end result in nearly all reported cases of grape or raisin toxicity is acute kidney failure. (The term "acute" means that the condition is severe and comes on quickly.) The dog ultimately can't produce urine, which means they can't filter toxins out of their systems -- a process essential to life.
During the twelve-month period in which the effects of grapes were studied, the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center handled 140 cases involving one or more dogs. Over a third of the dogs developed symptoms ranging from vomiting to kidney failure, and seven dogs died. The ASPCA based their study on reported cases, so naturally there may be cases where a dogs health is entirely unaffected by eating grapes. But until they know all the facts, the Society advises against feeding pets grapes or raisins in any amount."
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 02:18PM PDT
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Of all fruits, grapes have the most carbs (sugar)! Not good for dogs. I don't even eat them ~ ha.
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 05:59PM PDT
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Well it doesnt exactly say spaghetti (my favorite) I do like the baby carrots though!!!
Buddy
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 07:04PM PDT
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Garlic: Among its many claims to fame, garlic is said to serve as a natural antibiotic/antimicrobial, boost the immune system, lower cholesterol, prevent cancer and heart disease, and make pets less attractive to pests such as fleas and ticks. Fresh garlic is best; powdered supplements are not as effective. Contrary to some information being currently circulated, garlic is not harmful to our pets. As long as it is used in moderation, the health benefits far outweigh any remote health risks. Most animal nutritionists recommend the use of fresh, raw, minced garlic for all dogs and cats. You would need to feed many pounds of garlic every day for a long time before you would create a health hazard for your pet.
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Tue 04 Sep 2007 07:15PM PDT
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Organ Meats (Liver, Heart, Gizzards) are rich in the following: Vitamins A, C, D, E, K, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, biotin, folate, essential fatty acids, and the minerals zinc, manganese, selenium, and iron.
I personally hate liver, and hated "LIVER NIGHT" as a kid, but after research I understood why my mom
fixed it. But if I ate too much Liver, way too often, I could poison myself. Everything in this would, taken in excess, "CAN" cause harm. Look at the wording of things. I drive a car, I "CAN" get into a car accident, I "CAN" die from that accident.
I guess the Wolves, Coyotes and big Cats are EXTINCT because they ate the bones and livers of their prey???
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Tue 25 Sep 2007 07:29AM PDT
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On Today show: dangerous people food. They mentioned all we have here: choc, grapes, raisins....said healthy treats are carrots and broccoli. I am just imagining the green gas cloud if my dogs ate raw broccoli........
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Wed 26 Sep 2007 05:28AM PDT
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Wait a minute....you mean those brownies that Astrid brings home from day camp that are left in her cubby by the camp counselor have chicken liver in them? Here's a confession. The other dog kids at her day camp often bring treats on their birthdays and the camp counselor loves to bake for the dogs so I often find treats in her little cubby where she keeps her stuff at camp. If they smell really good and Astrid doesn't want them, sometimes I eat them. Well, I used to......until I read Tina's post about the chicken liver in the brownies. Gee......they were one of my favorites, too! Ugh..... Please, please, please don't tell me what else I may have eaten! *silly hysterical laughter*
On another note, my sister has recently switched her spaniel over to a raw food diet. Twice a day, Haley gets a raw chicken wing to eat...bones and all, and that is her diet along with some raw vegetables. I know way back in the wolf days, the wolves didn't know how to cook and ate everything raw. Still....it doesn't seem right and I'm not ready to try to improve on a diet for Astrid that is already keeping her healthy, full of energy and beeeeeutiful.
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Wed 26 Sep 2007 07:00AM PDT
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Hey ~ I love a (cooked) chicken liver, myself once in awhile...and, I have tasted my dogs' holistic food and treats.
I have a whole drawer of cute cookie cutters for when I baked for my dogs (using ww flour & corn meal)....then I learned those are two of the most common allergens. Even though they loved them ~ dogs (& cats) were never meant to consume those grains (or parts of, including glutens). A lot of skin and ear problems are actually allergic reactions to ingredients in your pet's food. I blogged a piece called Corn Wolves? Wheat Tigers?, here. It has been published several times.
Kay, on this site is one of the most knowledgable people I know, on raw food diets; and she is also more than willing to share info!
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Sat 03 Nov 2007 04:30PM PDT
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Grape and Raisin danger - I just received this from the President of the Boca Raton Dog Club:
Written by: Laurinda Morris, DVM
Danville Veterinary Clinic
Danville , Ohio
This week I had the first case in history of raisin toxicity ever seen at MedVet. My patient was a 56-pound, 5 yr old male neutered lab mix that ate half a canister of raisins sometime between 7:30 AM and 4:30 PM on Tuesday. He started with vomiting, diarrhea and shaking about 1AM on Wednesday but the owner didn't call my emergency service until 7AM.
I had heard somewhere about raisins AND grapes causing acute Renal failure but hadn't seen any formal paper on the subject. We had her bring the dog in immediately. In the meantime, I called the ER service at MedVet, and the doctor there was like me - had heard something about it, but.... Anyway, we contacted the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center and they said to give I V fluids at 1 1/2 times maintainance and watch the kidney values for the next 48-72 hours.
The dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen level) was already at 32 (normal less than 27) and creatinine! over 5 ( 1.9 is the high end of normal). Both are monitors of kidney function in the bloodstream. We placed an IV catheter and started the fluids. Rechecked the renal values at 5 PM and the BUN was over 4 0 and creat inine over 7 with no urine production after a liter of fluids. At the point I felt the dog was in acute renal failure and sent him on to MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor urine output overnight as well as overnight care.
He started vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his renal values have continued to incr ease daily. He produced urine when given lasix as a diuretic. He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications and they still couldn't control his vomiting. Today his urine output decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was at 10, his phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, which had been staying around 150, skyrocketed to 220.. He continued to vomit and the owners elected to euthanize.
This is a very sad case - great dog, great owners who had no idea raisins could be a toxin. Please alert everyone you know who has a dog of this very serious risk. Poison control said as few as 7 raisins or grapes could be toxic. Many people I know give th eir dogs grapes or raisins as treats including our ex-handler's. Any exposure should give rise to immediate concern.
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Sat 03 Nov 2007 09:36PM PDT
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Wow, thank you so much for this link! I knew about onions, grapes/raisins and chocolate, but wasn't 100% sure about tomatoes; Sam always used to get sick and throw-up all over the floor after eating any casseroles or stews made with tomato-based gravy, but another dog owner told me that tomatoes don't seem to harm her dog, so I thought Sam just couldn't tolerate them because he has a sensitive stomach. But apparently tomatoes are dangerous too!
Sam has a sneaky little habit of drinking out of our coffee cups when we leave them sit too long on the coffee table and they get cold - he's too smart to drink it while it's hot - now I've found out that's a very dangerous habit. He hasn't become ill from drinking coffee, but he does love cheese (another forbidden food), and yes, he has suffered from pancreatitis, resulting in my putting him on a low-fat diet. Now he's fed diced meat with all the fat trimmed off, cooked lightly and served with steamed or boiled vegetables, rice, pasta or cous-cous (I cook the grain foods in the meat stock), and a teaspoonful of garlic added just when it's all finished cooking. He loves it and hasn't had any further bouts of pancreatitis since. But I still have to be vigilant about leaving coffee cups around!
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Thu 15 Nov 2007 10:18AM PST
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Just a few things that are toxic
Both grapes and raisins can be toxic. Some dogs eat them with, seemingly, no ill effects. However, some dogs become ill after ingesting only a few grapes or raisins. The first symptom is vomiting, followed by acute kidney failure, from which many dogs do not recover. As of yet, the toxin is unknown, nor do we know why some dogs become sick and others eat grapes or raisins without a problem.
The yeast-containing bread dough can ferment in the dog's stomach, releasing large quantities of alcohol. Small dogs are most susceptible to this toxicity.
The ingestion of as few as six macadamia nuts has caused paralysis in dogs. Dogs with macadamia poisoning will appear anxious and have difficulty moving their rear legs. The legs may appear to be painful. Luckily, the paralysis is temporary and clears up within a few days. The causative agent of the paralysis is unknown.
Raw Salmon and trout can be infected with a parasite called Nanophyetus salmincola, a type of trematode worm. The worms themselves can be infected with a type of bacteria known as Neorickettsia helminthoeca. The bacteria only infects canids; other animals show no symptoms from eating it. When dogs eat raw fish infected with this bacteria, they can show symptoms including weakness, vomiting, loss of appetite, swollen glands, and fever. Ninety percent of untreated dogs die. Cooking kills the worm and the bacteria
Onions and garlic contain a chemical called thiosulfate. When ingested either in large quantities or in small quantities over a long period of time, they can cause an anemia called Heinz body anemia. This is reversible if you stop feeding the onions or garlic.
Xylitol-In some dogs this sweetner can cause hypoglycemia...
This toxicity usually occurs when dogs eat large amounts of sugar-free candy or gum. In humans, xylitol does not cause a drop in blood sugar; in dogs it does. This can lead to weakness, staggering, and other symptoms of hypoglycemia. There is also some evidence that some dogs may develop liver failure after ingesting xylitol.
Turkey skin. -In dogs, pancreatitis often results from eating a very high-fat meal. While dogs that are used to eating a high-fat diet, like sled dogs, can eat pure fat with no problems, dogs that are not used to such foods often cannot. When such a dog eats a high-fat meal, its pancreas overproduces enzymes, to the extent that they actually begin to "digest" the pancreas and inflame it. Common culprits are turkey skin and ham fat. Symptoms include vomiting and stomach pain. This is a medical emergency, and such dogs must be treated by a vet. Some breeds, like miniature schnauzers, are genetically predisposed to pancreatitis.
A common food byproduct used in gardens has been found to cause vomiting, tremors and fast heartbeat when dogs eat it.**Cocoa bean mulch. **
Cocoa bean shells contain the same toxic theobromine that chocolate does, and are poisonous to dogs for the same reason. The mulch has an attractive chocolate smell that is irresistible to many dogs.
Despite common misconceptions, poinsettias are only mildly toxic, and most dogs who eat them will experience no symptoms at all. Some dogs will drool or vomit after eating them. Holly causes intense nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Mistletoe causes vomiting, diarrhea, neurological problems and heart failure.
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