Turkey Warning
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Thu 15 Nov 2007 09:43AM PST
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With Thanksgiving approaching, I want to pass on a warning I received from my vet last year: Do Not Give Turkey To Your Dog! He said that every year he gets numerous sick dogs brought in from eating turkey (mostly small dogs). I have researched this, and the information I have found is that the skin is fatty and can cause pancreatitis.
However, even giving just white meat can be dangerous as there is a chemical in some brands of turkey that is bad for dogs and there is no way of knowing which brands contain this chemical – so it’s better to be safe than sorry.
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Thu 15 Nov 2007 10:23AM PST
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In dogs, pancreatitis often results from eating a very high-fat meal. While dogs that are used to eating a high-fat diet, like sled dogs, can eat pure fat with no problems, dogs that are not used to such foods often cannot. When such a dog eats a high-fat meal, its pancreas overproduces enzymes, to the extent that they actually begin to "digest" the pancreas and inflame it. Common culprits are turkey skin and ham fat. Symptoms include vomiting and stomach pain. This is a medical emergency, and such dogs must be treated by a vet. Some breeds, like miniature schnauzers, are genetically predisposed to pancreatitis.
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Tue 20 Nov 2007 09:22AM PST
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I have noticed barks about looking forward to having some of the turkey leftovers - Please read the warning above about turkey and the danger it poses to dogs.
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Mon 26 Nov 2007 06:31PM PST
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The warning from your vet, was it about "cooked turkey and bones" or about RAW turkey meat? Or was it more about humans over-doing a dogs meal? Please clarify, because I have learned that raw turkey meat and/or neck bones are not that fatty, but higher in protein/ lower in fat just like Emu/Ostrich, then most meats. Thanks for the info Carla
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Mon 26 Nov 2007 06:35PM PST
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The warning was about a chemical that is in some brands of turkey, and the problem is that it is imossible to tell which brands have it and which don't. So my vet was adamate - no turkey whatsoever.
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Mon 26 Nov 2007 06:41PM PST
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Not sure I understand what you mean about "A Chemical" in a Turkey? Growth hormones? Something injected after slaughter? I feed raw, and only non-steroidal/hormonal meats, so I am not sure what you are talking about. If there was a recall, it should've been done by now. Please let me know more. Thanks
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Mon 26 Nov 2007 06:49PM PST
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I don't know a lot more. There is no recall because it doesn't affect humans. I believe it is something injected into the turkeys after slaughter, but I'm not sure.
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Tue 27 Nov 2007 09:45AM PST
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http://www.oes.org/page2/2113~The_Great_Turkey_Debate.html
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Sun 02 Dec 2007 09:45PM PST
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This is so frustrating, trying to determine what best to feed our dogs. My vet, (as many do) pushes Science Diet. After I took the time to really read the ingredients, I decided not to feed it to Sami anymore. I have been on the hunt for a more natural and better quality food. My vet hasn't advised against turkey and I see several quality and natural dog foods that the main ingredient is Turkey. I have also read several articles that say turkey is a good source of lean protein for dogs. So now what? Between recalls, poor quality products, allergies, etc, it is hard enough knowing what best to feed our babies. Now I am reading conflicting reports. Fresh food is always an option and then we know what they are getting, but then there is the problem of their teeth. Aarrrgghhh, I try to do the right thing but, I'm just not sure what that is.
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Mon 03 Dec 2007 11:01AM PST
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I agree it is very frustrating trying to determine what to feed our dogs. Zack and Quincy are now on a holistic, fresh food. Before that, they got Purina Weight Management (sold at vets) or Science Diet (also from vet) but it gave them gas. I was happier with the Purina than I was with the SD, but they didn't seem to like it. They played and barked during feeding time or picked at their food. Also, they had to go out during the night every single night, which did not please me.
Tina gave me a sample of the food she researched, extensively. They went nuts over it! I asked my vet about it. I expected him to tell me that it wasn't good, since he'd be losing a sale. Instead, he said it was an excellent food and healthier than what they were eating. Since he was actually losing business by saying this, I was convinced. They have been on it for about 3 months. They look forward to every meal, and eat right away. Also, they do not have to go out during the night any more.
I have no vested interest in recommending any food – I get no perks or freebies. I recommend it because my dogs love it and are doing so well. I no longer have the hassles associated with their eating. I am nuts about my dogs and would never chose their food for any reason than because I think it is best for them. Good luck!
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Thu 06 Dec 2007 12:19AM PST
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aw no turkey for my baby :( i have a miniature dachund you think she could eat stuffing dressing ect other stuff from a christmas dinner cause she will be going to all dinners i go to her cute eyes will look at me like mommy i want some oh plz
:( lol but if it will hurt her i wont
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Tue 11 Dec 2007 07:22PM PST
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Correct me if I am wrong, But wasn't eagle pack just in a recall for having Acetaminophen/Tylenol? In their dog food? I can understand if you feel very confident in a product, but please place all facts for the public to examine. I feed my guys a Raw Turkey diet (with the proper amount of veggies/fruits) and they are thriving on it, cats and dogs alike (proper ratios per species). I just don't think "Turkey" is bad to feed, it depends on what type of turkey product you are feeding and how much and is it balanced.
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Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:00PM PST
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This is what I found online yesterday:
www.itchmo.com
Lab Reports Acetaminophen In Eagle Pack Senior Dog Food
Posted Wednesday, November 7th, 2007 in News for Cats, Dogs & Owners, National Dog, Cat & Pet Info, Dogs, Cats, Pet Food Recalls & Safety
By Emily Huh
Expertox, a Texas lab, tested an unopened, original package of Eagle Pack Holistic Select Senior Care Formula for Senior Dogs. The lab reported that the sample of dog food tested positive for acetaminophen.
The sealed bag of Eagle Pack Holistic Select Senior Care Formula for Senior Dogs had the best if fed by date of: 0549 P2 10 JUL 08.
A pet owner and a small pet store owner sent the bag of Eagle Pack dog food to Expertox after her dogs experienced symptoms when eating Eagle Pack, and she also received complaints from customers using Eagle Pack. Symptoms from both her dogs and customers’ dogs included vomiting, diarrhea, itching, eyes swelling, hives, conjunctivitis, tremors, and some unexplained aggression.
She then contacted Eagle Pack and said they told her that problems with Eagle Pack were only coming from her store. They said the itching was probably caused by the dogs going into the ocean and not getting the salt/sand out of their coats or that people were not rinsing their dogs completely after a bath.
Eagle Pack came by her store to obtain samples in mid-August, and she said she has still not received test results from them. She then contacted the FDA, and an agent come by three times to obtain samples and unopened bags of dog food. She said she hasn’t hear anything back from the FDA either.
Continue reading: Lab Reports Acetaminophen In Eagle Pack Senior Dog Food
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Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:07PM PST
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This thread was about turkey, which is a great thread for the general/novice owner, don't do anything that you might be uncomfortable with, but don't let that stop you from being an informed consumer, and hopefully people will read this thread and "investigate" turkey a little bit more. The turkey I feed my dogs/cats is a combination of skinless turkey necks and boneless/skinless turkey thighs along with veggies and fruit all ground up, sometimes a turkeyneck/or ostrich neck just for dinner.Cats will get a chicken neck for dinner. Have a blessed day
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